60 - 70 miles, 5K ft climbing, 16 mph average. This is a drop ride, if the wait on any hill is more than a few minutes - will come back and let you know, etc. Should have some experience with group riding etc. Might stop for coffee at Danville Peets depending on if no one is late :-) for something at home.

Since redwood is still closed, we will go over from Redwood to s. Pinehurst, then out past Danville peets to Dogtopia (where we usually turn right we will go left) to the bridge, and back. Let climbing but same miles and pace. LOTs more turn backs.